worse day of my life!

[jeff from pa soon to be nyc! (Guest)]

i just posted a message bout my shop being too hot but that dosnt matter no more!my dad came home today and said we are moving to manhattan island july 28th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..my workshop wich i finally got together after 3 long exhausting years....i know this sound patheic but everyday after school till 11 i would be out there all summer im out there. i put my heart into that place of my own...its all gonna be gone my tools ill have to sell...i mean ill have no place for them in my PENTHOUSE!im goon live in a penthouse with no lawn no shop no thin but concrete ...what do i do !!!

[Chris Michels (Guest)]

I work in Downtown Chicago but I would NEVER live there because I like my garage/shop and these don't exist in high rises. I don't know if this is possible but the only thing I could suggest is renting some space. If Pops has the money to live in a penthouse he may just be able to find the money to help you further you dreams.

Sit down with him and make your case with numbers. If he is a business man he would appreciate the approach of a business proposal. If you are not to the point of making any money at it then sell it as an investment.

Wish I could help more.


Chris.

[Wood Butcher]

You could be like me and whone so much about moving that your parents are convinved moving will destroy the world. THat was 2 miles, and I'm a PITA. We moved though, to a much bigger house and it worked out.

My girl next door moved to Canada. She cried like a baby though. But I was more then willing to lend her a sholder to cry on. :)

But I've found short of whining (which never works), a presentation does work. I would make a big deal out of it, making it like ones they would see at work.

But if you do move, and they break your grip on the doorjams. A pent house, well that has to be HUGE. You can corner off a bit and do it there. Granted the neighbors wont like it much. This seams to be a horrible situation, I know what it's like to save a meager paycheck from work and buy tools, or use your lunch money on wood.

Things always work out for the best. Fo example I know NYC, has many WWing schools. Possibly enrolling in one will teach you a bit, and let you make sawdust without disturbing the neighbors.

And they have culture there. My idea of a good play is, watching Texans ski. Of course I would kill myself in the city.

There is a last resort of playing "Where the Green Grass Grows" by Tim McGraw 24/7

Good Luck

[Lou_williams]

Where there is a will there is a way. There are people on the island that do woodworking. A table saw in a penthouse won't work, but handtools will. You might find that for a while it is good to become an neanderthol. (handtool woodworker). When you get a full shop back you will have new skills to mix with the powertools.

Lou

[Glen (Guest)]

Jeff,

Your folks need to be reminded or made aware they are crushing
your passion. Let them know this is not like a girlfriend you'll get over but a lifelong skill your nurtureing and developing.
And to be frank Jeff, I hear Manhatten and penthouse I think they could in all likely hood rent you some space. And if all this doesn't work drop kick them make them aware this is your escape, your deterant to drugs, boozen, peer pressures and the like. This may not be the most sound advise, cuz I don't realy know you, but you do need to comunicate with your folks.

Glen

[BobN]

Jeff,

I work at the Naval Submarine Base in Groton, CT and a lot of the Sailors I work with are into woodworking. They also move a lot and get real creative with their shops. A friend has his in a walkin closet. He has a small benchtop Bandsaw and a scroll saw and hand tools. He uses a shop vac for the dust. He mostly makes wooded toys and small boxes, but his skill with hand tools is fantastic. He will retire in a few years and then get into his dream shop. I know that things look bleak at this point, but figure out what you can do and convince your folks to help you.

My nephew is an apprentis cabinetmaker on Staten Island. He got a job in the shop when he was 16 and the guys in the shop taught him a lot and he was able to work on some of his own projects from time to time. When he graduated from High School his boss asked him to apprentice and he loves it. If you really love working with wood you can figure this all out.

Talk to your folks, tell them about your dreams and see where it goes.

BobN

[MadMark]

If you're of age, move out. If not, go live with a relative. 3rd choice, rent a loft in SoHo.

M

[Lou_williams]

Mark,

A loft in Soho is not cheap. For one that will hold tools and a person, $4000/month.

My Daughter used to live in near 4th and 6ave. Now some of the boughs maybe.

Lou

[JEFF FROM PA (Guest)]

WHAT AND WHERE IS SO HO?

[MadMark]

SoHo - South of Houston, the artsy-fartsy part of Greenwich Village. Near NYU and Washington Park. A wonderful area of NY to hang out in. All the lunitics and crazy's and art students and the like hang there. They have the sidewalk art show in September that is well worth the trip.

Actually you could probably find shop space in brooklyn or queens. There are woodworkers in NY. I know. I used to be one of them.

Lou, you're right. I was being a bit of a smart-ass on that SoHo comment. Sorry to all.

M

[Wood Butcher]

Anyone else a fan of a ranch? I would die in New York. I'm sure of it, where the heck are the mountians?

[krethjr (Guest)]

If you really must move and can't set up a new shop, you might want to consider putting your equipment in storage. Espicially if you've got some quality items. I've found selling and re-purchasing later to be very costly.

Jim K

[woodchuck1954]

Sounds like your fam has bucks. There are several co-op shop situations,around NYC. There are ads for them in Fine Woodworking. If thats an impossibility,set yourself up,for adoption with one of these "Ranch Hands",that have nothing but bad things to say about cities. What's your opinion of Texas?

[jeff form pa (Guest)]

sorry fellas for not keepin ya updated but on friday my dad said we dont have to move as long as he goes back and forth to nyc a few times a month...so thats what he is gonna do...i really appreciate all your support though, nice to know theres some where to turn to guide me to the answers in life

[Marilyn (Guest)]

Jeff,
We are all glad you can stay in your shop and hope you get that A/C working soon. Have you got any projects you are working on right now?

[WoodMangler]

I betcha that shop ain't too hot now eh! Glad you didn't have to move.
Marc

[woodchuck1954]

A strange man can bed your wife,kick your dog,but if he uses your tools while you're away,thats getting personal.

[jeff from pa (Guest)]

Marc, ill tell u what, although i still sweat it dosnt bother me at all. I'll give that a few more weeks then I will probably install a window and a/c.

Actually Marylan I am wokring on a few projects. Im finishing up a corner shelf for my sister's, friend's mom, wich is turning out alot nicer than i thought it would cosidering my fence on my ts is broke. i also made a cross for my sister's oher friend, who's cat died and needs a grave marker, i made the cross from the plans on madmarks website and modified the plans by changinfg the size , puttin a pint on t to stick into the ground and burned "fred" across it and down it i put " '89 '01 "
(thats what she wanted)...i amde it out of oak and put red oak stain on it to match her carden arberthat i also made for her a few tears ago.....when im done with the corner shelf i will start on furnitutre for my brothers new apartment , then i will make my table saw /router table rolling stand form shopnote, then i will start my entertainment center for my room......yes i will be buiy this summer

how bout you ? any projects u r currently tackling?



jeff from pa

[rrich]

Jeff,
I was born and raised in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn. There are a lot of single family dwellings, most have basements and some have garages. Encourage your dad to move into one of these homes. It will be a lot easier on your family and mom.

Rich