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jimpen
07-23-2003, 04:10 PM
Way back when (about 2 1/2 years) she (my lady being the upper side of 30) insisted on getting a goat. "Oh, a goat will keep the grass down" and "She'll scare off intruders". After a couple of weeks of this I gave in. :(

Flash forward to present day......

The goat doesn't make much of a difference. The goat has scared my lady with her prancing. :( My grass is still getting tall. :( And the goat runs from anyone coming on the property. :( But she hangs around the property with more loyalty than most dogs I have ever met.

The goat has tried to insist that she should be a house goat by banging into the side door to the house. Well turns out that the modular home (read double-wide trailer without wheels) has a strange (to me) side door. Apparently it is plastic layered on a foam core with an aluminum frame. After a goat bangs her head into it enough the plastic will crack and break exposing the foam core. :'(

I plan on replacing this door at some point from the frame out. But in the mean time my thinking is:

1. Size a 1/2" thick piece of plywood to sort of match the width of the window.
2. Edge band it with exterior grade molding.
3. Paint it to match the door and frame (slightly yellowed so go with an off white.
4. Attach it to the door using a caulk/glue.

Number 4 is my problem. Anyone have an idea of the plastic that is generally used on these doors and what would be a good glue?

Know this got long, but.... :)

PastorPaul
07-23-2003, 04:44 PM
Step 5: Learn what goat meat tastes like. :)

Pastor Paul
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krethjr
07-23-2003, 06:07 PM
I had to laugh (sorry). My daughter decided she wanted to do 4H last spring and we now have not 1 or 2, but 3 goats. Two Sanaan's and a mut. Once we got them off the bottle (8 weeks), they've been eating up our weeds like mad. I must admit, they are VERY friendly (read climb on top of you to get a scratch). Our goats are in a seperate pasture but I'll need to build a new "Goat House" before winter rolls around. I have to get my shop done first though.

BTW Paster Paul, a 3 month old goat went for $1,100 at the local county fair's 4H/FFA livestock auction. But that's nothing, a pig went for $28 per pound (220lb pig). And, Steer's were going for as high as $10 per pound. Keep in mind, most of the buyers are local businesses and this is their charity for the year.

http://www.krethweb.org/images/goats/Pdrm0037.jpg

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Have fun with the repairs.

Jim

DustyBob
07-23-2003, 10:54 PM
Had a goat once. After it jumped up on the Thanksgiving table and nibbled at every dish, it was the next weekend's BBQ. Had to tell the kids it was pork chops....they really loved that goat. :D :D

FireWrks7
07-24-2003, 06:08 AM
uh ... had it once ... supposed to be some sort of delicacy in Ecuador... and noooo it didn't taste like chiken


Anthony

jimpen
07-24-2003, 12:32 PM
Yeah, great.....but

4. Attach it to the door using a caulk/glue.

Number 4 is my problem. Anyone have an idea of the plastic that is generally used on these doors and what would be a good glue?

I figured you would all want to know how I achieved a hole in my door. :)

MorePowerMatt
07-24-2003, 04:00 PM
Jim,

I think it may be cheaper over the long run to replace the door with an exterior/entrance rated steel door. If your goat can break the door once, it can probably break it again if you're replacing it with or reinforcing it with wood. Goat heads are unbelievably hard.

MorePowerMatt
07-24-2003, 04:03 PM
Step 5:
Load .357 magnum with hollow-point wadcutters.

Step 6:
Find the goat.

Step 7:
Recite Ezekiel, Chapter 25, Verse 17 (a la Samuel L. Jackson).

Step 8:
Blast the goat five or six times.

Step 9:
Tell the kids "It's 'pork chops' tonight."

We're having way too much fun with this thread, aren't we.? :) :) :)

jimpen
07-24-2003, 04:16 PM
Actually, this is the door that just got the new stoop. It opens backward to the way the ramp needs to be installed anyway and is going to be replaced sometime.

But at the same time I just dropped $150 on meds in one day for the LOML and I don't/won't have the cash for a few months.

Besides, I'm looking at building my own door versus a big box solution. I just want a cure for a couple of months. A half sheet of plywood, some trim, spray paint and some glue will probably be sub $35 vs $300 for a door.

Super Ry
07-24-2003, 04:57 PM
We had a problem with the dog chewing on the side of the house - thats right CHEWING ON THE HOUSE. Bought one of those zappers that has 2 leads on it - one for a ground stake that gets pounded down into the ground and another line for the exposed wire. If you live in a semi wet area (assuming so cuz o the grass) and don't mind putting up some shock wire, you'd be surprised what an animal can learn if it hurts to do somehting. Our house is now chew free. :)

PS - PITA folks calm down - I tried it on myself first (more than once when the older brother and I had a few too many)

rrich
07-24-2003, 11:09 PM
There is a latex caulk/glue. It's clear. The label claims that it will glue anything to anything, probably true. I haven't found anything that it won't stick to. The glue does take a few days to fully cure. (Their words.) So maybe glue it up in the AM and hold it with clamps for a few hours and keep the goat away for a day or two.

Rich

TDHofstetter
07-25-2003, 12:22 AM
Jim -

The door is painted now?

So - we're not glueing to plastic, we're glueing to paint?

Or are you scraping the paint off the door before glueing up?

Either way, I'm thinkin' "Gorilla Snot" would work here - as in some other post at some other time. Not Gorilla Glue, but automotive trim & weatherstrip adhesive. Bright screaming yellow, and it'll stick anything to anything - so if you get any on your fingers & go wee-wee afterwards, don't say I didn't warn ya. :)

Goats' eyes are SOME cool.

Cabrito, roasted in the ground, is SOME good eatin'!

-- Tim --


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You probably don't have your own.

BigDaddy
07-25-2003, 07:59 AM
LOL, The only thing I can seem to think about after reading this post is Adam Sandler's Talking Goat script. The Old man tying his goat to the back of the truck, the goat talking to his buddies ..

LOL.

jimpen
07-25-2003, 08:01 AM
I'm pretty sure its just a plain vinyl of some type without paint. The surface has pebbly feel to it already.

I'm going to scrub it down and scuff it up a little before actually applying the patch.

I'm just concerned because some glues/caulks will melt a plastic as opposed to bonding to it. I think I'll try the gorilla snot. I'm just trying to make it look okay for a month or two until I can replace it.

Thanks for the help.

MorePowerMatt
07-25-2003, 09:31 AM
"Is this the Poison Control Center? I kinda super glued myself to, uh, myself." ~~~~ Jason Biggs from "American Pie 2"

If the door's going to replaced anyway, and this is a temporary fix, why not use the appropriate screw fastener?

jimpen
07-25-2003, 10:26 AM
Because there is nothing to really screw to.

It appears to be a sandwich of vinyl, foam and vinyl, edged with an aluminum frame. Nothing really to screw to unless I put a piece of wood on the inside, and then that would get in the way when you rub going out the door.

My idea is mounting a 2' x 3' plywood to sort of make a panel look that matches the window above it.

PastorPaul
07-26-2003, 08:12 AM
Jim,

I've seen much the same thing. Maybe I should join the 4H and get myself a goat. It would take care of what I do about keeping the grass cut, and in the fall I could make a killing at the Grape and Fall Festival livestock auction.

Only thing is, I suspect that goat meat would taste pretty baaaaaaad. :P

Pastor Paul
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Frank
07-26-2003, 09:08 AM
Jim- you said that "The surface has pebbly feel to it.." Sounds like it may be FRP board. It's used on the walls in commercial areas prone to water damage (ie restrooms, kitchen areas etc.). You can find the FRP board and the FRP adhesive at HD. Just a guess on my part. Good luck!

edshort
09-07-2003, 06:57 PM
edshort

You're looking to build your own door? I am interested in doing the same thing. Can you tell me where I might find information about how to do this? Like you, I am strapped for cash just now and would like to do it as cheap as possible for now...

Thanks,

Dale

logical
09-08-2003, 06:29 AM
>
>PS - PITA folks calm down - I tried it on myself first (more
>than once when the older brother and I had a few too many)

You too chewed the house? Do you know better now?

LOL