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CajunRider
01-14-2007, 09:42 PM
I want to change a couple exterior door from in swing to outswing. The hinges are made to be outswing already. The hinge pins are welded in and can not be pulled out. I know I can pull the door off and hang it again but I really don't want to do so due to the amount of work involved. Is there an easier way?

rrich
01-14-2007, 11:53 PM
CjR,
Can't you just buy new hinges at the BORG? I don't see any way around rehanging the door.

TDHofstetter
01-15-2007, 12:07 AM
I'm not sure we've got a clear picture here, Cage. Is the door & frame loose, or is it already in place? The hinges - is there something unusual about 'em besides the welded pins? What would pulling the pins get you, besides a door that's separated from the frame? If you moved the hinges, you'd have hinge mortises to fill, true?

I'm sure there's a terribly good reason to change the swing of the door. I think it's seldom you do something frivolously...

If there IS an easier way, we'll definitely noodle it out, we gang of us. :)

-- Tim --


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CajunRider
01-15-2007, 06:37 AM
Originally I designed the doors to be outswing hence they were bought with the correct hinges. During construction, LadyRider and I talked about looks and a lot of things. Some how we wound up with intalling them as in swing. Now we found out that, with the lake wind condition, it's impossible to keep the water from coming in on in swing doors. Now we have to change them to outswing. Since we already have decorative stuff on the door frame inside, it becomes a time consuming and costly change.

TDHofstetter
01-15-2007, 12:28 PM
Can ya hang an all-glass stormdoor on the outside? That'd stop the water, look good, and save a ton of work. Wouldn't be cheap, it'd cost ya prob'ly $250.

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Sonny Edmonds
01-15-2007, 05:05 PM
Nope. Not as I see it.
I'd remove the molding inside and out, zawsall the nails, remove the door and frame, spin it and remount it.
You are beginning to see why contractors charge big for change orders.

That palace is pretty danged high. What the heck is the lake doing blowing in the door? :o

:D

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CajunRider
01-15-2007, 10:40 PM
It's $474 for a simple 8ft storm door cuz it is special order.

TDHofstetter
01-16-2007, 12:41 AM
OW! What IS it, a 43-inch door?

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CajunRider
01-16-2007, 06:29 AM
I guess rehang it'll be. 4th time ought to be a double charm huh.

arcticfox46
01-16-2007, 03:31 PM
Only thing I can think of is to rehang it.

Take it out and turn it 180 degrees. Problem is - the hinges are now going to be on the other side of the door, so instead of a right hand door it will now be left hand (not really, but in effect yes).

I don't think you can simply change the hinges to outswing from inswing and not change the jams.

Rain Director
01-21-2007, 02:25 PM
>Nope. Not as I see it.
>I'd remove the molding inside and out, zawsall the nails,
>remove the door and frame, spin it and remount it.
>You are beginning to see why contractors charge big for
>change orders.
>
>That palace is pretty danged high. What the heck is the lake
>doing blowing in the door? :o
>
>:D

Soooooooooooooooooooooo.... If I understand you correctly, I could use an inswing door mounted the "wrong way" when installing a pre-hung interior door (for closets). Am I on the right track?

Sonny Edmonds
01-21-2007, 03:10 PM
Sure George, why not? Removing the doorframe, with the door in it is really easy.
So easy in fact, I won't fit a door to an opening if I don't absolutely have to. I'll put in a prehung door.
Where it gets tricky (for my feeble mind) is remembering the left swing - right swing thing. Especially with the hardware (handles). That's why you will see me reinacting opening an imaginary door in the hardware isle trying to pick out the right stuff. :7
I have seen some "closets" where you could inswing, or outswing, the door(s). They are getting rather large and (to me) obstensious.
The step kids have really largo clothes collections. One SIL is what you could call a clothes hog, or a clothes whore even.
Kinda hard for a jeans and T-shirt kinda guy like me to see the value in "designer" clothes. :o ;)

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TDHofstetter
01-22-2007, 12:55 PM
Just don't mount it the "right" way... swinging into the closet. Unless you've got big closets, you'll never get the door through the opening so you can hang it from inside... and if you could, you'd never get it to open far enough to use the closet. :)

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CajunRider
03-18-2007, 07:03 AM
Forgot to update you guys on this. The two doors were rehung. I used the Fein Multimaster to cut the door jamb from the door frame decoration. The wood blade cut through all the finishing nails with ease. I was impressed. Then I used a sawzall to cut the door jam from the house frame. Rehanging the doors were straight forward after that. With a bit of painter putty in the multi master cut seams and they looked like new. We've weathered several winter storms that blew water hard against the doors. There were no leak so I'd say it was a success.

arcticfox46
03-19-2007, 07:52 PM
Yeah we been weathering some winter here too. Want some snow?

Tom D
03-20-2007, 12:46 AM
Won't the hinge pins be on the outside of the door now makin them a little vulnarible

lombard
03-20-2007, 08:16 AM
>Won't the hinge pins be on the outside of the door now makin
>them a little vulnarible


Could be wrong, but I believe that's why they've got welded pins.

CajunRider
03-25-2007, 09:20 PM
As I mentioned before the hinges are sealed hinges so there should be no problem.

As far as vulnerability, most houses in the state are really not secured any way. A quick break on window or sliding door glass and you are in. On thing though, breaking in is one ting, meeting the thirty ought six is another hehehe.