View Full Version : Can I make my "Booger Sucker" do double duty.
10-17-2007, 12:57 AM
Well I just finished assembling the Dust Gorilla. Damn that thing was heavy- or I'm gettin' old. Maybe both. Going to run the 220 and I'm ready to go.
I was looking at supplementing the dust collection with an overhead, but here is my question. If I ran the ducting into a homebuilt box with several layers of Filtration- would that do the same or better than an overhead filter in the same place? (I know the noise will be higher using the Gorilla)
Also- when I unpacked the engine to the Dust Gorilla there was a large sticker on it that said do not start and stop the engine more than 6 times per hour. Is this a genuine concern?
10-17-2007, 08:28 AM
DCs depend on moving vast quantities of air through the system at a relatively low pressure. Inline filters at the inlet, so-to-speak, would knock that volume way down. A better plan would be an large open inlet and a small micron bag at the exhaust end. But a dedicated filter system would be better.
10-17-2007, 11:32 AM
What jerry said...
About the sticker on the motor ... I'm hardly an expert on motors but the basic jist that i've gotten is yep, that's a valid concern. It's actually all about the motor's duty cycle. Some motors are better than others, but most i've seen don't have the cajones to start more than a handful of times per hour.
10-17-2007, 12:15 PM
If I ran the ducting into a homebuilt box with several layers of Filtration - would that do the same or better than an overhead filter in the same place?
The Dust Gorilla filter gets everything down to one (1) micron and does it at over 1400 cfm. In comparison, the Delta AP 100 air cleaner only filters down to 5 microns and the Jet AFS 1000B air cleaner gets 85% of particles down to 1 micron.
The fact is that your Dust Gorilla filter will do as good a job as an overhead air cleaner and do it faster. The downside is the noise, as you noted and also the better air cleaners have a timer so that they can be set to clean the shop air after you are done for the day and will then shut off automatically.
Also- when I unpacked the engine to the Dust Gorilla there
was a large sticker on it that said do not start and stop
the engine more than 6 times per hour. Is this a genuine
I don't think they would have included the warning if it weren't a concern. That's also another good reason to enclose the cyclone in a cabinet or place it outside the shop. That way, you can let it run longer between stops and starts without having to deal with the noise.
He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep for that which he cannot lose.
10-17-2007, 07:54 PM
Kerry, you could just build your own [link:www.krethweb.org/photogallery/WoodWorking/Projects/AirFilter/index.html|overhead filter].
10-18-2007, 08:06 AM
I think I have the same "Gorilla" that you have (love it). I shut it down when I know I won't need it for at least an hour. I wear some "Pelter Tunes" to deal with the noise.
I also built my own overhead system. I run the overhead about 90% of the time. Those filters get cleaned or replaced every month or so, and believe me, they need it.
So, IMHO, any thing you do to collect dust makes your shop (and lungs)a little closer to "dust free".
10-21-2007, 03:21 PM
First, an engine takes raw materials, and makes motion from them. Typically, fuel, air, and some way to ignite them.
Now a motor takes energy, and converts it into motion. Like electricity, hydraulic or air pressure.
Didn't they teach you no physics! LOL!
What Cody said. Your booger sucker is actually a really great air cleaner in its own right.
Let it run on between times of actual need, like when a machine is running.
That's what I do. It keeps filtering the shops air and returning it.
Your best method is to build a closet around it and make a way for the air to return to your shop. I did mine with a framework lined with this stuff called sound board. Did a great job of stopping the noise.
There still is a use for an air filter to clean and move air around when finishing stuff. But you will find less and less use of an air filter if you can control the DC's noise, and let it run filtering between actual dust collection.
The DC is going to vastly improve life in your shop.
Now about starting and stopping your "engine" too much. Everytime a motor starts, it creates heat in the windings. Some motors are made to be started and stopped a lot. But higher efficiency motors can get too much heat built up in them and that can cause them to trip the little thermal devices internally.
Plus it just plain isn't good for the windings. It hammers the life out of them.
And putting a warning like that might give them (Onieda) an out to use if somebody becomes a habitual motor replacement libility.
(If Joe Blow goes through 5 motors a year, maybe Joe Blow is a problem, not the motors.)
So there Ya go:
Motors and engines are different.
DC's make good shop air cleaners in between actual dust colletings. (When muffled)
And don't be a Joe Blow.
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