Looking to get my first table saw for my converted 1 car garage shop. This is what I am thinking about, Delta 36-979 from Lowes. What doe the wisdom of this board think of it and would you recomend anything different in that price range? Thanks for your help in advance
Keep in mind that that price does NOT include a fence. You have a choice of a Biesmeyer, the Delta Unifence, or a cheapo fence. The cheapo fence isn't worth considering, the other two will add upwards toward another $300. So now we are really talking about more than $700. There are many options in that price range. Some worth considering, others not. Read the archives in this forum about tablesaw selection. Otherwise you are just opening up another can of worms.
A table saw without a fence! That sux!
Look at this one. I have had one for several months and like it. Be ready to replace the belt right off, it has more memory than my computer. Before the belt got stiff it ran smooth as any I ever saw. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46813
BTW, the way it is made it just begs to have a router table added on. I took the top off my old craftsman industrial and by adding a 3/4" strip down each side it fit like a glove.
The new line of Delta saws at Lowes comes with 4 fence options including a no fence option ($449), the T2, the Unifence, or a Biesemeyer fence. That "cheapo" fence is the Delta "T2" and is actually pretty good IMO. I think it's very much worth considering for the price...it's a huge improvement over their previous entry level Delta T-fence and is more robust than the aluminum stock fences in that price range. It's a steel t-square design along the lines of a Biesemeyer, but isn't as ruggedly built and has aluminum faces vs the laminated faces...still very user friendly and very functional. Most comments from owners are pretty positive.
That said, I'd be looking at the advantages a hybrid offers. Not having a motor hanging off the back is a big advantage by design with no downside....better DC, smaller footprint, shorter drive belt, etc. Craftsman has 2 models that are getting raves (22114/22124), Jet has 2 (708100 for $400, and the new updated Supersaw), Delta has 3 (36-715/716/717), Grizzly, GI, Sunhill, Yorkcraft, and Hitachi also have one, though I'm not real keen on the $500 Hitachi.
I own a Delta Contrator Saw . . . just did a ton of ripping with it today in fact. :D
I would buy it again in a heartbeat . . . problem is, they don't make them like mine anymore. They still make some great products, but that saw you've linked to, IMHO, is not one of them.
Dollar for dollar, saw to saw, if I was buying today, I'd go with the Ridgid from Home Depot. It comes with a decent fence, a nice mobile unit, is 230v capable and has a blade guard that may actually get used since you don't need to fiddle with tools to put it on/off.
As others have said, $550 minus a coupon if you can get ahold of one, or, open a charge account for the 10%.
As to the Grizzly, they make nice stuff . . . but for me, on something as big and central to shop operations as a table saw, I'd have a tough time droping that much coin without seeing it in person first . . . though reviews are generally good on it.
Looks pretty reasonable to me from the pictures and what I found at [link:www.deltamachinery.com/index.asp?e=136&p=6083Delta's site] on it.
Has dual voltage, so you could run it on 240 VAC if you wanted too.
Has two smooth cast iron wings, which is very nice. (My Craftsman I inherited had open wings. One time I pinched my finner with them, YEEE-OUCHY! But they were cool for clamping.)
Comes with a roller base, so you aren't shelling out for that. And is a nice feature to have.
Not having a fence on it means you get to choose what you'd like from the options. It also opens up the possibility for an Incra fence system to consider. So you could have it the way you want it for a good many years.
AND it has a tray in place for a 4" DC hose to help keep it from making a pile on your shop floor.
Take the virtual tour on the Delta site. Pretty cool.
I'm a Biesemeyer fan myself. I had the home shop model I put on the old Craftsman and it made it like a whole new saw. Extremely accurate and stayed that way.
Now I have the Commercial fence version on my cabinet saw. Very substantial fence! It took some getting use to after the light and agile Home Shop fence.
I'm not a fan of copy cat fences. I have a copy cat T square fence on my Band saw, and it definitely acts like a wanna-be T square fence.
But this is for your shop. It only has to please you. As contractor saws go, I like it.
Before you take the plunge though, look at cabinet style TS's. Grizzly used to have a decent Cabinet saw at around 700-800 bucks.
But something like that might not fit your ideas for a compact shop.
Saws are best compared by the pound. Heavier the better. ;)
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