Help with Biesemeyer replication

[brAdmurdick]

i built a fence similar to the Biesemeyer fence system, i was just wondering having not ever seen one in real life is there much of a space between the bar(attached to fence) and the end of the table AND the piece(attached to fence, glides on the rail) and the rail. i left quite a space the first time and when i move the end closer to me where an operator would be standing it will move on an angle. I would like to figure how i could keep it inline and paralel with the blade.
i know that may seem confusing but i'm really getting frustrated with unequal cuts, so any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance,
-brAd

[TDHofstetter]

I'm not quite following... any chance you could take a couple of pics, maybe with a finger pointing toward this & that?

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[Frank]

Have you looked at the Biesimeyer site? Click [link://www.biesemeyer.com/|here] and look for instalation instructions. You may find what you're looking for there, or be able to describe the problem better.

[Darrin O]

I built a biese clone myself with measurements directly from the biese. If you can take pics or break down your question so i might better understand, i'll try to help. The big thing with making the fence is using whatever means you have to keep everything parallel and or square. This may mean using spacers or jigs to clamp things together as you weld. Like I said, I'll try to help. Mine did turn out very well.


There are some little intricate parts and adjustment screws on a Biese that you wouldnt know about if you havent seen one in person or an exploded diagram.

Darrin
"Ever notice how good enough, is usually neither good nor enough?"

[brAdmurdick]

after reading the biesemeyer PDF instruction file, my problem is adjusting fence paralel to mitre slots. What are the screws in figure 30. (D & E) suppose to be for?

[Darrin O]

I guess i'm not seeing the same diagrams as you. There are however two set screws that are in the piece of angle iron that rides on the rail. The set screws can be adjusted in and out to aid in squaring up the fence and tightening the clamping pressure of the fence. However, there is a limited amount that they are able to adjust. What might help you most is if you were able to get to a tool store and look at the T Square type fence in person on a Delta or Powermatic or Jet.

Darrin
"Ever notice how good enough, is usually neither good nor enough?"

[brAdmurdick]

well i'll go look around and play with it, and i'll let you's know how it works out, if it does
thanks for the help
-brAd

[Sonny Edmonds]

They adjust the fence to run parallel to the miter slot in the table.
They push agin tabs that are welded on one end and have the slider material on the end the allen head set screw pushes on.
Thus, being able to aim the fence.
Vertually the only adjustment to a Beise. And vertually the only one it would ever need.
Never had to adjust either of the two I've had.
It's a triangle of clamping pressure applied to a T-square aiming system.
Nearly bullet-proof.

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Sonny:

What about the slop you get when you are attempting to move the fence left or right?

I have the Biesemeyer on my General saw and when I slide the fence I get alot of movement (IE: not a clean slide) and i have to verify parallel every time I move the fence.

Will adjusting these screws help the slop?

Thanks for any insight

Mike

[brAdmurdick]

>Sonny:
>
>What about the slop you get when you are attempting to move
>the fence left or right?
>
>I have the Biesemeyer on my General saw and when I slide the
>fence I get alot of movement (IE: not a clean slide) and i
>have to verify parallel every time I move the fence.
>
>Will adjusting these screws help the slop?
>
>Thanks for any insight
>
>Mike


That's the exact problem i'm having, just worded much better
-brAd