Pen Mill.... hey Limey!

[Sonny Edmonds]

Being the resourcefull blagart I am, I was agian studying this tool for blanko prep.
Appears that it would behove me to have one, especially after you brought it up. I very nearly purchased such in my order.
But... all it amounts to is a face reamer, sooo.....
I got to thinking about what I have I could use.
I am a reloader and was a hunter. Gave it up almost entirely but have all the fixins still. Bear with me, I'll get to the point....
Amoungst my crap is a case reamer that is used to adjust the length of a caseing to a precise length (and I'm talking every casing eggzacary the same length).

I do belive I can use it to ream the face of the blank to tube relationship for the pen blanks. Where I'm stumped is the actual ID of a 10 mm holes tube. (Damn this bisexual English/metric measurement world.)
Knowing the ID of the tube for a pen blank, I could make a sleeve for the mandrel of my case reamer so's it could be brought forth from the crap and used again for reaming pen blanks prior to turning them.

What say Ye? Do Ye know of said inside diameter of Yon tube?
I shall roll on this course upon my return to my castle at todays twilight.
I am of the thought that a 9 mm casing may make a good bushing adaptikator for said 10 mm drilled hole, prior to the tubes arrival.
Allowing experimentation of the plan. A pre-reaming, if you will.
(Kind of like practicing an a$$ chewing in the mirror before the actual confrontation of the chew-ie)

But knowing the ID of said tubes comming in shipment might allow me to prepare for the coming of the dragon, in that I could machine the desired bushing to adapt the mandrel of the case reamer to accomidate it.
Tally Ho! :)
(Such non-sense! But I am serious about using the case reamer for a more peaceable purpose)

By the way, I am sure the blanks will be sufficently cooled from yesterdays boring by the time the tubes arrive. So I suspect I shall be able to begin glueing them.
Don't you think? :7


:D

Sonny Edmonds
"Precision Firewood Specialist"
http://home.earthlink.net/~sonnypie/
God Bless America !

[volleyheads]

Sonny,

Either Packard or Craft Supplies has always answered my questions over the phone. It might be worth a call and they can measure a few for you while you hold on and see what they are. Just a thought.

Best Regards,

Bill

"If it is worth doing, it's worth overdoing"

[Sonny Edmonds]

...use a phone? You must be kidding.
Email maybe, but to actually carry on a conversation? :o
I donno Bill, That would be awfully strange for me to do.
But I'll go searchin'.
Thanks for the thought. :)

:D

Sonny Edmonds
"Precision Firewood Specialist"
http://home.earthlink.net/~sonnypie/
God Bless America !

[Limey]

Starting arse about face.
Yeah you drilled THIS Batch yesterday, What about the next and the next....anyway as you know wood has a soul so when it sees those pen kits and it knows what the future holds I'm sure it's going to break into a sweat.:)
Yeah I forgot you're Urban Davy Croquet. That's what the Timmer man uses, I was trying to find a plumber's Tap (fawcett(sp)) re-seating tool. Then the "fairies" sent me one in the mail.
I just slide little nylon sleeves that I've drilled and turned, You don't need to be spot on accurate. I like a 1 mm slop on mine But then I'm doing it by hand and can judge straight. If I can't find it in my disorganised chaos I square them on my belt sander. If the belt sander has the wrong grit I use the pen wheel. If neither is .... aw shut the f.. up Limey.
Speaking of the Timmer he's made himself a NEATO little pen press,
Forgot to mention that in my other ramble.
I just line up the Tube and stick em between the soft jaws of the vice, eyeballing it straight and feeling it with one hand just pinch it slowly till it bites and then screw all the way slowly.... Those mucky minds at the back can report to me after class .....

Or again Timmer uses his drill press, only ever gone bad on me once and that was my arrogance when it was going in cocked at (excuse me I'm trying to make a serious point here.... any more giggling and suggestion of innuendo ...Carlos..... Innuendo is NOT a Hispanic suppository....let's try and finish this like mature adults shall we.....) cocked at an angle and thought I could straighten it out by spinning it 180 degrees and applying reverse thrust . Should have taken it right out and straightened it manually. You know the deal like pushing bearings in with a drift. Common sense and don't wind it in until you feel that little jerk as it straightens.... (I know what I said... and I know he's a little jerk but that doesn't mean you can feel him... I've had enough of this ...Class dismissed...mutters to myself just you try teaching this bunch of smart arses anything).

Cheers Limeballs.

PS Get organised NOW before you get a gazillion kits and bushings ,,label them and keep the bushings together on a wire tie,,mark them with "white out" pen or code them some how.... just look at my odds and sods box where I new at one time EXACTLY which bit belongs where.
I am slowly sorting out the mess and writing out a card for each kit with dims. of blank. drill size needed, and notes as to whether sloppy or tight etc and keep them together in little compartmented small parts storage box...3.99 at Odd Job.

[Sonny Edmonds]

>Starting arse about face.
>Yeah you drilled THIS Batch yesterday, What about the next
>and the next....anyway as you know wood has a soul so when
>it sees those pen kits and it knows what the future holds
>I'm sure it's going to break into a sweat.:)

Well yeah, sorta. I guess. Huh?

>Yeah I forgot you're Urban Davy Croquet. That's what the
>Timmer man uses, I was trying to find a plumber's Tap
>(fawcett(sp)) re-seating tool. Then the "fairies" sent me
>one in the mail.

A fairie, or a seat reamer, or a fairies seat reamer (which I would think would be awfully small for pens) :7
Not, I should think a valve seat repair reamer would be rather excellent for this.

>I just slide little nylon sleeves that I've drilled and
>turned, You don't need to be spot on accurate. I like a 1 mm
>slop on mine But then I'm doing it by hand and can judge
>straight. If I can't find it in my disorganised chaos I
>square them on my belt sander. If the belt sander has the
>wrong grit I use the pen wheel. If neither is .... aw shut
>the f.. up Limey.

I shouldn't think it need be aerospace quality afterall. Nylon hadn't cross my mind, I was thinking in terms of brass, and the simpler the better. Like brass tubing from a hobby shop or such, slid on the mandrel of the reamer.

>Speaking of the Timmer he's made himself a NEATO little pen
>press,
>Forgot to mention that in my other ramble.
>I just line up the Tube and stick em between the soft jaws
>of the vice, eyeballing it straight and feeling it with one
>hand just pinch it slowly till it bites and then screw all
>the way slowly.... Those mucky minds at the back can report
>to me after class .....

That's what I was thinking about was the vice press method. I have a lot to learn and experiance here and no damn parts to look at yet.
But I have a press that is a drill press as well. A behemouth from WWII.

>
>Or again Timmer uses his drill press, only ever gone bad on
>me once and that was my arrogance when it was going in
>cocked at an angle and thought I could
>straighten it out by spinning it 180 degrees and applying
>reverse thrust . Should have taken it right out and
>straightened it manually. You know the deal like pushing
>bearings in with a drift. Common sense and don't wind it in
>until you feel that little jerk as it straightens....

Yep, eggzacary what you means Professor. Only one? Good record!


>PS Get organised NOW before you get a gazillion kits and
>bushings ,,label them and keep the bushings together on a
>wire tie,,mark them with "white out" pen or code them some
>how.... just look at my odds and sods box where I new at one
>time EXACTLY which bit belongs where.
>I am slowly sorting out the mess and writing out a card for
>each kit with dims. of blank. drill size needed, and notes
>as to whether sloppy or tight etc and keep them together in
>little compartmented small parts storage box...3.99 at Odd
>Job.

Hard to get organized as it is. But it was in my mind (like a BB in a boxcar) to gather this growing mess into a place.
An organised shop is a BS shop. Nothing takes place there because it might cause disorganization, you get my drift?

So Timmer is a turnin. Good Show! Jolly Good Show! I need to scratch his arse with an email anyhow. And blow some smoke in his ear.
Catch Ya on the flip flop. :)

:D

Sonny Edmonds
"Precision Firewood Specialist"
http://home.earthlink.net/~sonnypie/
God Bless America !

[Sawduster]

Sonny,
It do sound like that case reamer would work (Daddy shot a lot of holes into stuff and loaded some of his own special hot loads so I know what you're talk'n about). That reamer thingy does do a good job of squaring things off, even the tubes that apparently aren't cut off square since the reamer makes part of the end shiny before it makes the rest of it shiny. That or my reamer (that's a better name than pen mill) isn't square. Then pens go together okay though.

I just slip the rubber pads off'n my short quick grip clamp and squeeze the little buggers together with that. Ain't lost none yet, except for one pencil kit I tried to assemble into some blanks my buddy gave me that were already tubed for pens. Who'd a thought that the pencil tubes were shorter than the pen tubes. Didn't realize until the little push button thingy that makes the lead come out seemed to have disappeared. Thought, dang them Berea people ripped me on some parts till I took it apart again and saw all the parts were there. Guess I shoulda compared em 'fore I pressed all them parts in.

You can probably tell I've got a real high tech shop. I even got around to making a new ZCTP for the TS just so's those pen blanks would be square at the end. The old one worked fine with longer pieces, but that short stuff kind of drooped down and follered the lay of the throat plate.