Help - need good excuses for significant other

[prokoj]

Sort of new to this sight and have posted a few questions here and there but I need everyones help. Finally decided on the Grizzly table saw 1023S as a present but my wife is questioning why I need to spend that type of money on a saw when I can buy a lesser contractor model along the lines of Craftsmen, Ridgid, Dewault or Bosch. I am new to woodworking and have recently finished my first project(stepstool for my daughter) which when completed felt accomplished.

Granted, I could probably get by with these other saws but we have the money and I really have a laundry list of things I would like to do at some point(i.e. fireplace mantel, entertainment center, backyard shed, bookshelves, jewelry box, etc.). you get the picture. So what I'm really looking for are good excuses to use in order to upgrade her thought process. maybe there are none and I should stick with the lesser models but figured I would try to buy something that would last for quite some time. ideas?

thanks

[Sawduster]

Well, first you've got to figure out some project that she really wants, then tell her that you have to have this particular tool, well, that works for getting a tool, but as to a particular one well, try this, number 1 is that if you stick with this woodworking thing, you're gonna need to upgrade eventually to the cabinet saw (not really true, lots of folks use contractor saws with great success for their entire woodworking life, but you don't have to tell her that), so you might as well get it now and save the money you would spend on a contractor saw. #2 Is that as a rule inflation is gonna drive the price of that saw up over the interum period before you outgrow the other saw, so you'll be saving even more if you buy it now (again not really true since if you invested the difference today, it would make up for inflationary price increases later, maybe).

Actually, unless you have a very large area for a shop, that behemoth could become a lodestone when you've got to move things around to make room for future purchases, and, depending upon the used tool market in your area, getting a good price on the thing may be difficult if you decided this WW is not how you want to spend your weekends. But then again, He who has the most and biggest toys, wins.

[dicklaxt]

Have you ever heard such a liar.... but he is right!

dick

[Lou_williams]

You might use an give her a story that she might understand from some other area.

While a low end contractors saw will do most of the things that a Cabinet saw will do there is a big difference in how easy they are to use and how much effort is required to get a quality job done. You can't do anything with a cabinet saw that you could not do with a hand saw and a few other hand tools, but the level of skill and time are very different.

Now, if she is into cooking you could explain that she could cook on a camp stove and do everything that a comercial stove would do. If she is into exercise then you could explain how a treadmill is no different than going out to the road and running, in the rain and snow...

You see what I mean. The other thing to explain that by the time you get a decent contractor saw, or upgrade the fence on the standard units you have spent the same or more than you would for the G1023.

Since I don't know what your wife is into then it is hard to know what she can relate to.

[Kevin]

You could even get a little more decpetive and make up some kind of safety excuse. Do you have kids? Lean on how much safer the Grizz will be both for you and for wandering young mischief makers. I'm not condoning cheap shots... but you gotta hit home }>

[dmiller]

You said money wasn't a problem, do a trade off. Tell her she can go shopping and you'll pay for it(if you don,t already), if you can have a new saw. Or, maybe you can take piece of oak and crosscut it a half of a degree off and show it to her. Explain that your present saw doesn,t have the power to cut hardwoods. That the blade heats up too much(lack of power) and won't cut correctly. So with a new cabinet saw you'll be able to make HER anything she wants. If that doesn,t work do what everybody else does, BEG and tell her how much you love her( mush-mush, you know the routine) Good luck, David

[prokoj]

hey, this is good stuff. I can use some of these. if anyone else has any ideas keep'em coming.

[Lazarus]

Tell her she is right. Say the table saw is too expensive and you will settle for the $500 dollar Sears Craftsman and then take the $300 dollars you saved and go buy a dinning room set or front-room set with it. When she says you can't get a dinning room set for that much tell her that you sure can at Salvation Army or Kmart, or some other discount store. She will then tell you that you can't buy anything of quality at a place like that and that it will not last. Viola! she proved your point for you, and you didn't even have to argue about it.

:)

[deathwish2]

Recently, when doo-hicky was upgradiong from a lunch box DeWalt Planer to a used Grizzly 20" Planer . . .I suggested he tell her he could eBay his DeWalt for $250 or so . . . to help offset the cost . . . she ended up letting him get the Grizz and keep the DeWalt . . . .

So, if you have anything that will be rendered obsolete in your shop, even an old 8" Craftsman benchtop saw that you'd only get $50 for in the want ads, It help to show sacrifice a little sometimes . . .

Another Good analogy along the line of the ones above is a sewing machine . . . you can get a $100 5-stitch Brother (Benchtop equiv.), move up to a $500 35 stitch auto buttonhole singer (mid-contractor equiv.) or step up the line until you eventually get the the programmable embroidery modes in the multi thousand dollar range (5hp 12" cabinet with powerfeeder and outfeed table equiv) . . . It's all in what she can relate to.

Another good one is Kitchen knives . . . my knives cost more than my contractor saw . . . but they are NICE . . . and sadly I do cut meat more than I cut wood . . .

--Deathwish

When it comes to
woodworking and buying
tools, I always think back to
my grandfathers advice on
golf . . . "it's not the arrows,
it's the indian.''

[Sawduster]

And as a last resort, Cry. Women love that.